New project under way.

parklane · St.Thomas On Rod-side member

New project under way.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Junior · Race starter St.Thomas Drags Rod-side Aylmer On Member

Best wishes for your Dad Rich, the Suburban will be beautiful!!!

junior

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Thanks Parklane and Junior.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Sad news about your Dad, Rich. Sorry.

toomuchjunk · Dec 11, 2018

Best wishes to your dad Rich. There is a hidden tip in this story to all on this site. Get it checked!!!!! Even if just the blood work.
TMJ

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Thanks Guys.
Rich

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

I am not having any luck posting pictures from my phone. I will try again.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Finally got one to post! This is the engine that will be in my Suburban. Ben has got it all cleaned and painted. I have finally finished modifications to the floor to mount the rear seats from a newer sub. Motor is a 5.3

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Dads truck was a 78 so the motor was blue. That's something I wanted to keep the same.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Quick cleanup and rattle can paint job.

tc · St.Thomas On member

It's amazing how nice a motor and trans can look with a clean up and a paint job.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Ben loves the new generation small blocks and am looking forward to my first. There is still more painting to do on it.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

slab wrote:
Ben loves the new generation small blocks and am looking forward to my first. There is still more painting to do on it.

They run so smooth with excellent power. I'm working on my first as well.

Junior · Race starter St.Thomas Drags Rod-side Aylmer On Member

slab wrote:
Ben loves the new generation small blocks and am looking forward to my first. There is still more painting to do on it.

They are the way to "GO". I am going to have to get on this wagon too and build one.

junior

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

we went in on an HP tuner so we can do all the re-programming ourselves. Ben has been messing around with it a bit already with his truck and can't wait for spring to tune his Camaro. The engine was in a 1999 chev truck but is a 2005 with 160K on it. After parting out the truck, I have zero dollars into the 5.3 and rebuilt trans. Should be around 300HP before headers exhaust and electric fans are added. You know...give or take a bit. Should also say that Ben made the adjustable motor mounts as well (can be seen already on motor painted blue). He really is the "brains" behind this swap. He says "you need this and that" and I buy it. LOL

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

slab wrote:
we went in on an HP tuner so we can do all the re-programming ourselves. Ben has been messing around with it a bit already with his truck and can't wait for spring to tune his Camaro. The engine was in a 1999 chev truck but is a 2005 with 160K on it. After parting out the truck, I have zero dollars into the 5.3 and rebuilt trans. Should be around 300HP before headers exhaust and electric fans are added. You know...give or take a bit. Should also say that Ben made the adjustable motor mounts as well (can be seen already on motor painted blue). He really is the "brains" behind this swap. He says "you need this and that" and I buy it. LOL

I also need HP Tuners or EFI Live. Need to bypass security before I can start it up.

If Ben recommends the HP, I will buy it also. I trust young guys with the new tech.

Where did you get it if you don't mind?

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

We bought it from summit racing with four credits. I'll get Ben to answer your other questions. Lol.

ThatChevyGuy · Brantford Ont Member He is that Chevy-Guy

Hp tuners is what we bought.
It is what most people use, and can certainly do what you need it to do. The stock ecus on these motors are phenominally tunable from factory, even offering complete system makeovers to run speed density for Turbo cars etc.

Regardless, they have a pro version and the normal version. Their website can tell you the differences, but for what youre probably looking to do with it, the normal one will be fine.

The new version that they sell is a bluetooth capable fob that plugs into the OBDII port, so you can run gauges through a 5 dollar app (TORQUE APP) that I highly reccomend, as I have been using the app for the past year to run my speedometer through GPS. When doing your ECU flashing however, you use the cable for uninterupted data transfer. They sent a usb drive with the kit too, not sure why.

FYI, the truck motor ECU costs 2 credits (around 100$) to unlock, where the car (not sure on ls1, but LS3 or LS2 etc) cost more if Im not mistaken.

Im rambling now, but I would go with HP, just for the wide range of youtube videos to help you get started, as well as an online database of downloadable tunes and a forum to dig through.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

ThatChevyGuy wrote:
Hp tuners is what we bought.
It is what most people use, and can certainly do what you need it to do. The stock ecus on these motors are phenominally tunable from factory, even offering complete system makeovers to run speed density for Turbo cars etc.

Regardless, they have a pro version and the normal version. Their website can tell you the differences, but for what youre probably looking to do with it, the normal one will be fine.

The new version that they sell is a bluetooth capable fob that plugs into the OBDII port, so you can run gauges through a 5 dollar app (TORQUE APP) that I highly reccomend, as I have been using the app for the past year to run my speedometer through GPS. When doing your ECU flashing however, you use the cable for uninterupted data transfer. They sent a usb drive with the kit too, not sure why.

FYI, the truck motor ECU costs 2 credits (around 100$) to unlock, where the car (not sure on ls1, but LS3 or LS2 etc) cost more if Im not mistaken.

Im rambling now, but I would go with HP, just for the wide range of youtube videos to help you get started, as well as an online database of downloadable tunes and a forum to dig through.

Thanks Ben.

I will go with the HP.

I guess I will need a wide band O2 as well? Time to start researching. This part drives me nuts. I prefer to just go, go ...go.

Oh well, gotta do it, and soon. Spring is getting close.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Rock auto Christmas.

ThatChevyGuy · Brantford Ont Member He is that Chevy-Guy

You dont need a wideband if youre running a N/A engine. It helps to really dial it in I suppose but my Camaro and Truck dont have it and neither will dads burban.

Wideband is how you would get every drop of stock horsepower, but all you do is remove the rear o2 sensors (they only apply for your emissions and you don't need them), and use the front two for the data needed for metering the fuel/air.

The basic thing to so for horsepower gains is fuel enrichment changes and messing with the torque management and shift points.

Without going too crazy again, youll basically do the following
-Delete the anti theft
-Remove any engine codes you dont want turning on(evap, rear o2s etc)
-Change the wheel tire size for your application

That should get it running.
I should mention as well, you can add pins to your computer plugs for electric fan triggers aswell, and then set the temp the computer will trigger them at with HP. Im going ranting again.

If you had any more questions feel free to send me a Pm and give me a call if you had some things you wanted advice on. Im new to the tuning as well, But the swap stuff im pretty familliar with.

ThatChevyGuy · Brantford Ont Member He is that Chevy-Guy

Valve covers are on, intake painted and throttle bofy as well. Just threw the intake on for now still have gaskets and torque to do.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Looks good.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

ThatChevyGuy wrote:
You dont need a wideband if youre running a N/A engine. It helps to really dial it in I suppose but my Camaro and Truck dont have it and neither will dads burban.

Wideband is how you would get every drop of stock horsepower, but all you do is remove the rear o2 sensors (they only apply for your emissions and you don't need them), and use the front two for the data needed for metering the fuel/air.

The basic thing to so for horsepower gains is fuel enrichment changes and messing with the torque management and shift points.

Without going too crazy again, youll basically do the following
-Delete the anti theft
-Remove any engine codes you dont want turning on(evap, rear o2s etc)
-Change the wheel tire size for your application

That should get it running.
I should mention as well, you can add pins to your computer plugs for electric fan triggers aswell, and then set the temp the computer will trigger them at with HP. Im going ranting again.

If you had any more questions feel free to send me a Pm and give me a call if you had some things you wanted advice on. Im new to the tuning as well, But the swap stuff im pretty familliar with.

Thanks Ben.

I may take you up on that.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Pictures tell the story.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Couple more.

Junior · Race starter St.Thomas Drags Rod-side Aylmer On Member

Nice guy's ! Can you tell me about that intake? Pretty cool lookin' smile

junior

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Factory truck intake. Cleaned, adhesion promoter and then painted duplicolor rattle can. 2005 year.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Ben's on the harness and I cleaned the fuel rail and put new o rings on the injectors.

-- Edited by slab on Friday 1st of March 2019 06:21:35 AM

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Thanks for all the help Ben.

Got her fired up.

Lightspeed Mike · http://lightspeedmetaldesign.com/

Hey Pugsy, I like the coil covers you have on that. I need to make a set for mine.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Pugsy did you make that high mount AC compressor or buy it. I have been pricing them from Dirty Dingo. Glad your engine is working out.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

slab wrote:
Pugsy did you make that high mount AC compressor or buy it. I have been pricing them from Dirty Dingo. Glad your engine is working out.

Those are the mock ups. They're only an 1/8 thick.

I have a set on order 3/16" thick and also an extra set if you need em.

I ordered double of everything I'm using on this build including motor mount brackets, gas tank flanges to fit a stock Avalanche pump.

Not sure how they're gonna work out. Need to cut into my fuel tank and weld on it. Should be fun.

CAD file available to anyone that wants it.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Lightspeed Mike wrote:
Hey Pugsy, I like the coil covers you have on that. I need to make a set for mine.

Thanks. Coil packs work great but yeah, they're kinda ugly.

Templates available.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

123pugsy wrote:
slab wrote:
Pugsy did you make that high mount AC compressor or buy it. I have been pricing them from Dirty Dingo. Glad your engine is working out.
Those are the mock ups. They're only an 1/8 thick.
I have a set on order 3/16" thick and also an extra set if you need em.
I ordered double of everything I'm using on this build including motor mount brackets, gas tank flanges to fit a stock Avalanche pump.
Not sure how they're gonna work out. Need to cut into my fuel tank and weld on it. Should be fun.
CAD file available to anyone that wants it.

Thanks Pugsy

Can you post up a pick of the front of the motor showing the belt drive system? What is it off of? Where did you get the AC brackets from? how much? and which AC pump are you using? Wiring? These are all the questions Ben has been asking me to figure out for my set up. Not sure if I will change from the dirty dingo stuff but price is a factor as always. lol

THX in advance.

Rich

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Watched closer and it looks like a stock truck belt system. That saves you needing to answer one question. lol

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

They're being laser cut now, and I can get them to you for cost.
Cheaper than DD for sure.
I also have some thick walled tubing for the spacers.
The tensioner is an OEM one also, so that's perfect

I need to get my hands on them and make sure they're OK first and proven. Still a concept until
I get them installed without throwing the belt or squealing.. Hopefully, they come in this week.

Lightspeed Mike · http://lightspeedmetaldesign.com/

123pugsy wrote:
Lightspeed Mike wrote:
Hey Pugsy, I like the coil covers you have on that. I need to make a set for mine.
Thanks. Coil packs work great but yeah, they're kinda ugly.
Templates available.

PM sent

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

123pugsy wrote:
They're being laser cut now, and I can get them to you for cost.
Cheaper than DD for sure.
I also have some thick walled tubing for the spacers.
The tensioner is an OEM one also, so that's perfect

I need to get my hands on them and make sure they're OK first and proven. Still a concept until
I get them installed without throwing the belt or squealing.. Hopefully, they come in this week.

Awesome. Thanks

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Some up dates.

Junior · Race starter St.Thomas Drags Rod-side Aylmer On Member

Nice work guy's

junior

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Update.

Marten · Kemptville Ont Carpenter/Renovations

Wow pictures must have been taken from down under, lol

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Looking good.

Junior · Race starter St.Thomas Drags Rod-side Aylmer On Member

Looks Brand New Rich;great job! He will be 'impressed'

junior

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

IMG_20220721_081847853_HDR~3.jpg Done and roaming the East coast.

Sorry for the upside down post

All three vehicles are LS swapped

-- Edited by slab on Friday 29th of July 2022 02:54:04 PM

-- Edited by slab on Friday 29th of July 2022 02:55:23 PM

Lightspeed Mike · http://lightspeedmetaldesign.com/

Good to hear from you Slab. You passed by me on the 401 east of Prescott on Monday Aug 1. I saw your plates and knew it was you west bound.