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This is the simplest swap/conversion there is. I am following this info here

http://www.oldengine.org/unfaq/leadfoot/spindle/drum2disc.htm

Did the left side to night. smile 

I will be re using my proportioning valve and replace my master cylinder with a 1" or 1 1/8" bore unit. This will be a non power assist system. 

 

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I'm keeping an eye on you John.....biggrin



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See the large anchor bolt at the top? I have to shorten that by removing the portion the springs anchor on to.

I am doing this on the floor of my shop,no room for a hoist only floor jack/stands/wood blocks.

 

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Any of you members out there with a Nova/Camaro/Chevelle front clip grafted to your rod with drum brakes,this is the most cost effective (read Cheap !) upgrade possible and your using GM stuff.

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I'm watching close because I have to do this same swap on my 67 Sedan. Too bad you weren't closer, I could mill that pin down for you. Keep post'n pics. The most popular question when I was selling my wagon was "does it have disc brakes?"

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I would to see a picture of that bolt when you have it at the size you want it.. I am waiting to do mine .. and a list of part numbers for the rotors I am guessing they use the D-52 pads.. looking good John.. Nice clean looking car.. 



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Will show a picture of that when modified. Yes, D 52 pads, did not want Metric stuff from an S truck /G body. I will include a list of parts and part numbers I used.

My donors (spindles/shields/cal. brackets) are '69-'72 Nova.

 

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In order to shorten the top bolt (the same one used w/drum brakes where the springs anchor) I had to build this bench with vise and sections of RR track and a concrete block underneath. This will be my "Bangin'- Poundin'- Bench". This is the amount cut off the top bolt.SAM_2063.JPGSAM_2062.JPG



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This is the amount cut off the spindle and the Tool that I used. The disc is approx.  .070 thick.SAM_2064.JPGSAM_2065.JPGSAM_2066.JPG



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The head of the top bolt had to be reduced in thickness by almost 1/2. Trial assembly to make certain the rotor did not touch bolt head and away we go!

Now the other side, part numbers to follow.This is what I bought, from/for '69-72 Nova->

Donor rotors,calipers,spindles,cal.brackets&dust shields    Plus another set of only spindles,cal.brackets&dust shields. These are spoken for after this swap.

The donor calipers were toast,so re built were needed,the rotors were New,just need a clean up. Seals,bearings are all the same.

KAP 5514 rotors,BHA 36672 flex hoses (x2) and 18-4035& 18-4036 reman calipers plus D52 pads. 

smile biggrin smile biggrin smile biggrin smile biggrin 

 

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Looks great John:  Couple questions.. The part you cut off the spindle.. do you have a side pic, I am not quite sure where this is from.. And do you think those brackets holding your rail-track anvils will be sufficient..biggrin  biggrin biggrin just thinking of your toes..



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Those will fall off for sure Chuck,lol. The part that's cut off is from the spindle where the top bolt goes in,you remove no threads, only casting. The disc spindle's are shorter in this spot,that's all. 1st is what I cut off ----  next is the cut off piece sitting on a disc spindle--- then the disc spindle alone.SAM_2068.JPGSAM_2069.JPGSAM_2070.JPG



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All done! Just waiting for a master cylinder. smile yawn

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AND my Rally wheel's fit- they are from a disc brake car. 

smile  biggrin 

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Looks Good John !!


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Thanks Wayne! smile

 

 

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They look so pretty .. I am looking forward to getting mine done.. You done did a nice job of that John.. Have you brake tested them yet? Thanks for the list of part numbers for the calipers and hoses.. The sun is shining here but it's still pretty damn cold here.. I will get the stuff over the next week or so if that's OK..



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 Thanks Chuck. Master cylinder will be here on Monday, then I can bleed the system and road test.

 

 

 

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good job jr, i wish i had the ambition to do the fronts on the coronet. they say necessity is the start of most inventions and i like that vise/anvil bench you put together.
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good one and like chuck says make sure you have your steel toed footwear on.  3 thumbs up from the irish judge, lol.

 



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Master cylinder is on but the rod that 'pushes' is too long. I have to shorten it, a bit at a time I guess.  I knew this was TOO F in' easy!SAM_2086.JPGSAM_2087.JPG



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Getting some unwanted brake drag eh!!!.. is it doing all the time or gets worse as the brakes heat up..does it lock the wheels right up.. do you have a porportioning valve or some residual valves on the rear brake line.. Should have 2psi valves on the rear I think.. 



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I have to shorten the rod and give it a try,with it adjusted to it's shortest length it's still too long.

1/4" at a time  smile

 

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Make sure the rod is dead straight into the M/C. Sometimes when you change the M/C, the alignment changes slightly not allowing the rod to retract completely and thereby keeping the rear brakes slightly applied or eventually locked up.

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Thanks Warren. My '66 Acadian had the same master/manual brake set up when I bought it- but I never had my head under the dash to see what rod was used cry

I going to shorten it a Max.of .375 since it is adjustable it's just more of me upside down in the car 'getting it right'.  yawn

 

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Looks like it's been 'custom made' already. Judging from the outline on the firewall I am thinking it Had power brakes at one time

 

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I shortened the rod by (see photos) which left 2/3rd's in the threaded clevis. Getting under the dash was not as hard as yesterday; Toradol helps a cry.

Now let gravity do it's thing.

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looking good Junior.

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Nice job. On our 71 Nova I found an SS and took all the spindles off of it when I discovered the upper mount issue, including the hood and the 12 bolt. Are there two holes on the pedal arm, when I went to power brakes on my 57 I had to drill another hole to change the lever effect.






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aww                 thanks guy's !

 

 

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Finally got the brakes 'bled' last night. Seem like this warm weather has kept me busy at 'other things' hmm Oh well, forward>>>>> 

And the master cylinder I used from CarQuest pn BPR 10-1521 (full size pass car mid '70s) 

ROAD TEST!!!!!

 

 

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John: I want to get up to pick up those spindles as soon as I can and bring the Power-glide.. I just been busy as heck with outside yard work.. I just can't get caught up.. and have trouble with my knees and ankles.. Had my ankles injected yesterday, So they should feel better in a day or two.. Just ordered some Tommy Copper knee supports to see if they give me some relief so I can stand on my legs for more than a couple hrs. Right now my car is not safe to drive ,, I am metal to metal on my brakes and pretty shamed for a professional wrench who knows better.. I have all the parts in from Rock-Auto. I will get it done over the next couple days.. then see about getting up... yours looks great.. good work my friend.. thanks for posting all the information.. It is helpful to many others I am sure.. me included.. Now can you stop the grass from growing for a couple weeks till I get the cars and mowers serviced.. Please!!! biggrin biggrin

 



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Could be a good time for us to meet again. Parklane mentioned Vienna last time we were out biggrin
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Chuck,if I could make the grass stop growing,well I would be a Rich man, LOL !  As TMJ said maybe a good time to get together, and see Cheyenne,,,,,,,,

 

 

 

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As a matter of fact, was just thinking of that very thing. See my post.

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Junior wrote:

Chuck,if I could make the grass stop growing,well I would be a Rich man, LOL !  As TMJ said maybe a good time to get together, and see Cheyenne,,,,,,,,

 

 

 

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 jr, you would be Richer still if you can include the dam weeds with the stop order.   lol



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shag766 wrote:
Junior wrote:

Chuck,if I could make the grass stop growing,well I would be a Rich man, LOL !  As TMJ said maybe a good time to get together, and see Cheyenne,,,,,,,,

 

 

 

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 jr, you would be Richer still if you can include the dam weeds with the stop order.   lol


        LOL , forgot about them. Possibilities are Endless!!! biggrin smile                                               junior



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