Epoxy Primer

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

Epoxy Primer

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

There still is and eastwood dealer in Canada but I don't have thee name as I haven't used them yet. I am sure someone will chime in with it.

As for Epoxy-We just bought SPI it is probably the best I've ever used. Not the cheapest. PPG DP90LF is good as well but not the cheapest. Proform has an epoxy primer which I have not tried but the price point would be a lot better and I have used other Proform products with good results.

www.southernpolyurethanes.com/

us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refinish/products.aspx

ca.proformproducts.com/en/products/paint-related-products/primers/2k-epoxy-primer-sealer/

hope the links get you there.
Rich

Ziggy · Trenton On Member

try: maidstonecoatings.com
they are down by Windsor way.
If I'm not mistaken they took over Hawks. I just gave them a call and even though I only got voicemail, they did say they are still an Eastwood dealer.

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

X2 on SPI.

Locally, contact: Neil Wood 647-960-3111

Mix is 1:1, I believe, so one gallon is actually 2 gallons.

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

ThanX guys.

I will see what's my best option.

Proform products are sold locally through a jobber 5 minutes away.

SPI seems to have a lot of good said about it on other forums. (quick search)

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

On the other site (Ontario Rodders), it would seem that Ground Pounder copied and pasted your question from here, over there? Unless you are ground pounder? LOL

He suggests that epoxy (industrial) can be purchased from colour your world etc. This may be in fact a very good tip. Although, getting a painter to change paint is not an easy sale. If you have put a lot of time and effort into a paint project, the last thing you want is an unproven(even if only to yourself) paint product messing up your work/progress just to save a buck or two. I know our factory here buys paint products from places like this but I don't think it is because of the quality?? Something to look into I guess.

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

slab wrote:
On the other site (Ontario Rodders), it would seem that Ground Pounder copied and pasted your question from here, over there? Unless you are ground pounder? LOL

I haven't been on that site in a long time (few years) , and NO I am not Ground Pounder. hmm Just did a search over there and yep copied my question word for word. The nerve of some peoples kids.

Even though this will be only for parts under the hood/fenders, I'd rather stick to proven paints.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Ben and I have been having a lot of success with a spray can etch primer. It is not exactly cheap but used carefully it last quite a while. Our parts come out of the sand blaster, blown off, wiped down, hit with the etch primer then 20 minutes later painted with a top coat. Ben did his front calipers this way and 3 years later they were still looking great.

The brand name of it is long and I can't recall right now. Dominion something? I'll try and post it before to long.

Rich

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

Rich,
I know you and Ben have done some fabulous work.

What's your opinion on using the same brand from start to finish?

Maybe I've been reading too much on the net these days. A lot that I've read mentions using the same product from start to finish.
I most likely will only be doing the parts under the front hood this winter/spring in Epoxy Primer. Then I don't plan on finishing this car anytime soon. I can see it sitting in the garage for easily a few more years, unfortunately.

Chris Stapley · Nov 23, 2017

Rich,

I bet the name you're looking for would be Dominion Sure Seal..?

https://www.dominionsureseal.com/product/one-step-self-etching-primer-aerosol-sep-2/

slab wrote:
Ben and I have been having a lot of success with a spray can etch primer. It is not exactly cheap but used carefully it last quite a while. Our parts come out of the sand blaster, blown off, wiped down, hit with the etch primer then 20 minutes later painted with a top coat. Ben did his front calipers this way and 3 years later they were still looking great.

The brand name of it is long and I can't recall right now. Dominion something? I'll try and post it before to long.

Rich

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Funny you should ask because I am fighting with this issue myself. I will give you my opinion. I always used DuPont paint and primer surfacer. But used PPG epoxy. Then switched to Nason (DuPont) epoxy. After water base came out, DuPont seemed to nose dive and Napa switched to Matrix but not completely. Long story short, I am looking for a new paint system supplier and am leaning toward Sherwin Williams. I think what bothered me the most was the lack of what I wanted and or the size that fit my situation. I prefer quarts in a lot of cases because we are not painting everyday and DuPont/Napa seemed to be dropping quarts and some of the products I liked. To get back more to the original question though, Napa in Brantford is selling mismatched paint and primer and clear to the shops they supply. If you are a shop that wants to warranty support, then you have to use all products from one company. On my personal car and Ben's we will use SPI epoxy, and put most likely all Sherwin Williams products on top.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

Thanks Chris that is the stuff. We should have bought shares in that company we had used so many cans. I like their seam sealer as well. We are looking to start buying the etch by the case. Lol.

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

ThanX Rich.

I'll most likely end up going with quarts myself as I wouldn't want to waste paint by having it sit around too long.

slab · Brantford On, Hooked on Nova's

I thought I would add to this post since some interesting new info has come up. LOL

This from another forum we all know and love.

Lots of folks forget that before paint became so refined as it is in today market place it was once all industrial product.[still is in a sence]

With such said go to your local color your world or wall paper an paint supply store they will have epoxy primer at half the cost of your automotive paint body shop dealer..

They have the original grey an red epoxy primers that were used on many of the old cars back in the day I:e grey an red were used on gm an mopar as well as ford.

Yes black epoxy as well.

Any one that builds trailers or sandblasts for a living buys their paint products there.[if not they should]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a secret!! biggrin

And this....

slab wrote:
Is it an activated epoxy? What do they call it as far as product name? Curious minds want to know?

THX

Is it an activated epoxy= Yes

What do they call it as far as product name?= i'll get back to ya shortly.

And now....

DO NOT PUT BODY FILLER OVER EPOXY PRIMER You will come to regret such ..

The epoxy will push the filler off in time...have seen such happen many times...DO not do it.

Do as you will....I've been in the high end restoration /collision trade for 38 years never had a come back,However have redone many cars done WRONG by other shops/people.

This thread does not come close to the hundreds of cars i,ve done.. http://ontariorodders.activeboard.com/t61920759/years-gone-by/

I'm not about to scan an upload old pic's to prove to know what is known to me as wrong...

Good luck fellas . confuse

Do as you will.

My thoughts after reading all this stuff is that maybe the price of the epoxy affects the quality as well.

Epoxy from 20 years ago is not of the same caliber as the products available today.

Just my opinion. SPI for me on anything that matters.

Rich

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

Rich,
ThanX

I have a local Dulux down road and a Sherwin Williams also.

I still need to check out my local jobber (Fincham Automotive) I do know they have a paint & body section in their store.