My first concern was if I went this route ,would affect my Family Doctor and his/her attitude towards me.
No it did not and actually he reffered me to a Medical Marijuana Clinic. I am not after the 'high' , that was fun when we were young. I want pain relief that does not affect my stomach. Toradol, Advil and other prescribed anti inflamatorys are hard on me/my body. I can thank Modern medical ignorance & pharmacuticals for that.
This is all legal.You buy from a Licenced Provider and it's shipped to your door.I have a follow appointment up in Sept. You fill out a questionnaire, piss in a container and then speak with a couple councilors. With my medical history forwarded to them from my Doctor, my THC max. now is @ 15% and ALL the CBD I want.
THC is what gives you the euphoric or high feeling, has a cerebral effect on you.
CBD is what has the anti inflammatory,anti epileptic properties,anti spasmodic etc
Terpenes & Terpenoids give weed that smell & taste
Believe this or not and I am quoting from a publication put out by a Legal , Provincially governed establishment
"The reason cannabis has medical benefits is because our bodies are NATURALLY set up with a biological system to work with cannabinoids"
"all was given to us on this Earth to use , in moderation"
So draw your own conclusion on it, on me, and others that use this form of Medicine
We are in the 21st Century
I forgot to mention, the medicine and all the required devices ( vaporizer etc) are all eligible medical expenses through Canada Revenue Agency.
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i am with you on this one jr. i have been offered a script a couple of times over the past 10yrs for long term pain but have refused it due to my american border predicament that i have to renew every 5 yrs and it would be a matter of record if i had a script. until all this legalization stuff gets straightened out pertaining to the border i will remain self medicated. i was smoking this stuff since the mid 60's but i didn't have a clue about the medicinal side of it till my guts started screwing up from all the pain pills involved after my accident 13yrs ago. i smashed my hip all to hell falling 16-17ft onto a cement pad landing on my hip and was in the hospital about 6mths out of a year till they got me going on my 3rd hip. my family doc at the time is the one who pointed me to this for the pain but i didn't want to chance my border stuff. she actually gave me the recipe for home made and i have progressed from there and now use this gizzmo, https://magicalbutter.com/, which i bought from amazon. you are right about it all being legit and deductible, out in b.c. everybody has a script and catching on here quick.
here is a thought, if you were the government what would you rather have? a big bunch of grey power, old people, strung out on opiods, morphine, or a big bunch of old farts not feeling the pain and a little happier.
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I'm in BC. A friends wife takes MJ oil. A few drops in the morning.
It has really helped her arthritis pain. But it cost $600 a month.
Not covered by our medical plan but tax deductible.
i am with you on this one jr. here is a thought, if you were the government what would you rather have? a big bunch of grey power, old people, strung out on opiods, morphine, or a big bunch of old farts not feeling the pain and a little happier.
I would choose the latter Rick
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I have to admit , I like both sides of it.. I have toked since 1969 for my first time.. I use it moderately for arthritis and for the music after the pain has gone.. unfortunately my meager little home grown stock for last year was ripped off from my yard.. Since I don't have a script for any .. I am dependent on my friends for a little pain meds once in a while.. But there is no question in my mind that it works as a pain reliever.. I have had many ,many nights over the years that I could never have slept unless I took the edge off the damn pain with a joint.. I do have a vaporizer.. but no meds at this time.. I was unable to find any clones this year.. So I have much pain from time to time..And Tylenol or advil does not do it for me just eats my guts up.. I am a believer in Cannabis.. and it's natural, I have never heard of anybody having any disease or illness, or side effect from using it.. The media has hyped as some evil physic hallucinatory drug that always leads to heroin.. The only persons I have read or heard bad things with while using Pot are persons that suffer from schizophrenia and I have read and heard that the drug made them worse.. .. Smoke em if you got em.. I don't drink beer or alcohol cause I am allergic to alcohol..
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I had a head/neck industrial accident over 10 years ago. I now have neuropathic pain, which some of you know- hurts like the dickens.
Due to the constant pain I never slept more than 45 minutes at a time. No REM's make for a difficult day to follow.
I tried a few pharm's the Dr. prescribed, some worked to a degree, some didn't - but the ALL have side effects, which at times could be worse then the ailment.....
One evening as my wife and I sat on the swing out front our youngest son joined us. He pulled a spliff out, lit up and offered it. I responded " I quit that, along with booze about 35 years ago as it was a problem.
My wife suggested I try, she said " you've done everything the Specialists suggested and haven't been satisfied yet", so I took a couple hits and went to bed about an hour later.
When I awoke I presumed it was 45 minutes after I went to sleep so when I changed positions and glimpsed at the clock imagine my surprise when it registered I'd been asleep 3 hours!
I got up, took a leak and had a drink then went back to bed. Next time I awoke I'd been out for almost 3 hours again.
First solid sleep in over 10 years.
That week I got legal, as the other fella's mentioned, it's easy to order, mailed to my door and paid by card. More importantly, the product quality is consistent.
I purchase from Tweed. They have a few growers under their umbrella. When product becomes available it's put up with the THC and CBD percentages posted. They also have compassionate pricing for those with limited income.
My initial concerns about my usage becoming an issue again have not manifested. My wife say's I've grown up. I'll admit to maturing some......
i think I will be finding out as much info as I can in the coming weeks.
i suspect much like any other health care issues, I'll have to source farther south.
if you or a loved one gets a serious illness in the wrong "Lin" or area, your screwed..
Ive put over 8000km on running south to get Art treatment.
finally got his surgery on Tuesday.He's down to 1 kidney Unreter and 1/2 a bladder now.
Im thankful that we were able to find a specialist that could do it in Barrie as the waitlist to have anybody up north do it was in October. pretty sad. His tumours were doubling in size every seven days. The surgeon confirmed there is no way he would've made it till October had we not found somewhere/surgeon that could squeeze him in.
So I got him home late last night. Now he has to recover from the surgery before he starts his chemo. Hopefully that does the job and gets rid of what's left.
So is this something I discuss with dr?
Not that I can't find a source around here I'm sure. LOL but want to get what will work for him specifically.
I'm not really concerned with the doctors attitude towards it! If I'm not on his Christmas card list I'm OK with that. LOL at the end of the day I just want to have every available option for the best outcome for art.
i think I will be finding out as much info as I can in the coming weeks.
i suspect much like any other health care issues, I'll have to source farther south.
if you or a loved one gets a serious illness in the wrong "Lin" or area, your screwed..
Ive put over 8000km on running south to get Art treatment.
finally got his surgery on Tuesday.He's down to 1 kidney Unreter and 1/2 a bladder now.
Im thankful that we were able to find a specialist that could do it in Barrie as the waitlist to have anybody up north do it was in October. pretty sad. His tumours were doubling in size every seven days. The surgeon confirmed there is no way he would've made it till October had we not found somewhere/surgeon that could squeeze him in.
So I got him home late last night. Now he has to recover from the surgery before he starts his chemo. Hopefully that does the job and gets rid of what's left.
So is this something I discuss with dr?
Not that I can't find a source around here I'm sure. LOL but want to get what will work for him specifically.
I'm not really concerned with the doctors attitude towards it! If I'm not on his Christmas card list I'm OK with that. LOL at the end of the day I just want to have every available option for the best outcome for art.
yes, that is the start point janie. "So is this something I discuss with dr?"
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Hi Janice.. Just do a little googling about this topic.. and take a little information to your oncologist.. but he is probably already knowledgeable about how it helps..I have known a few people who used it for that exact reason and it helped them a lot with the side effects of the poison of Chemo..Thinking or you guys and wishing a positive and speedy recovery for Art..
Hi Janice.. Just do a little googling about this topic.. and take a little information to your oncologist.. but he is probably already knowledgeable about how it helps..I have known a few people who used it for that exact reason and it helped them a lot with the side effects of the poison of Chemo..Thinking or you guys and wishing a positive and speedy recovery for Art..
There is lots of information to support the use of cannabis and cancer and chemo..
I've lost two males on my Dad's side(G Pa & Uncle) from cancer; both were exposed to chemicals utilized in Tobacco farming (triggers) I inherited my Auto- Immune disorder from him & have learned now that some of my triggers are in the food chain and they are to be avoided.
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Answer ..NO!!.. It's much like the idiot that can't drink a beer or two.. He has to drink 20 .. Those people will always be there.. but look how many kazillion can have a couple beer and get on with life and taking care of business, being a good parent, husband , worker and on and on..
There are kazillions who can smoke a joint period and get on with being all the good stuff.. just as I am sure there are idiots who can't they always need more. They are addictive to anything.. i personally know a lot of really smart, talented, hard working , decent people who can smokr a joint and be productive members of society.. We will always be surrounded by losers and addicts..from car builders and hot rodders to Drs ,ploce ,politicians.. Idiots come from all walks of life.. just as addicts, It's not the beer or the pot..
Just my view from a 70 year old that has much life experience as a volunteer in addictions, and mental health for years...
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Answer ..NO!!.. It's much like the idiot that can't drink a beer or two.. He has to drink 20 .. Those people will always be there.. but look how many kazillion can have a couple beer and get on with life and taking care of business, being a good parent, husband , worker and on and on..
Idiots come from all walks of life.. just as addicts, It's not the beer or the pot..
Just my view from a 70 year old that has much life experience as a volunteer in addictions, and mental health for years...
And a 60 year old that has no faith in Modern Medicine.
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Question???? Or did it lead from there !!!!
Answer ..NO!!.. It's much like the idiot that can't drink a beer or two.. He has to drink 20 .. Those people will always be there.. but look how many kazillion can have a couple beer and get on with life and taking care of business, being a good parent, husband , worker and on and on..
Idiots come from all walks of life.. just as addicts, It's not the beer or the pot..
Just my view from a 70 year old that has much life experience as a volunteer in addictions, and mental health for years...
And a 60 year old who tried a number of man-made Prescription drugs to alleviate debilitating chronic pain - only to end up dealing with a number of side-effect issues. Cannabis can grow naturally and causes NO negative side effects while soothing untold afflictions.
There is a 'stigma' attached as with ALL other things. There are too many "Porch Sitters" who don't do the reaserch and listen to what they "want to hear"; If big Pharm is not involved, it cannot be good for you. Well BIG PHARMA is killing more people than saving. JUST my opinion. Draw your own conclusion.
AND Big PHARMA cannot patent an item found in Nature; that means no money. Unless they are in the Medical "POT" business which I am certain they have not wasted anytime getting involved in and the LIBERALS as well. Do your homework
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I am sure it is classified as a drug. Air line pilots, train engineers
Ttc drivers , are all routinally checked.
Oh and pro sports .
Let me make myself clear as nobody seemed to have read my post
I am not against marijuana being made available to those who require it medically. But does society really need another for me and my use drug to go along with the social problems we have now with alcohal ?? How many will be spending a couple of hundred bucks on pot rather than their children or families ??How many will be busted driving under the influence if pot ??
Now a Dui will run a person 15000.00 just to get back into the car !!!
I can see the govt rubbing their hands together now.
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It' a good thing we dont get as much goverment as we pay for !!!
It is a real fair concern for sure.. I agree there a lot of irresponsible idiots that will end up in trouble for sure.. and will it be a problem for society like booze.. alcohol.. I suspect there will issues from the idiots that are addictive or just losers.. I am almost certain there will issues .. but it should not restrict those who need non addictive pain relief.. I guess time will tell.. I do agree with your point.. but the drug it's self in not harmful if used by a responsible person.. for medical or recreation..just my view..
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It is a real fair concern for sure.. I agree there a lot of irresponsible idiots that will end up in trouble for sure.. and will it be a problem for society like booze.. alcohol.. I suspect there will issues from the idiots that are addictive or just losers.. I am almost certain there will issues .. but it should not restrict those who need non addictive pain relief.. I guess time will tell.. I do agree with your point.. but the drug it's self in not harmful if used by a responsible person.. for medical or recreation..just my view..
Dam Chuck Im still working on taking aspirin responsibly . Don't kid yourself the government push to legalize is ... A.... a tax grab .....B ... Non restricted drugs are not covered by insurance.... Its a big Club and were not in it.....
Not to rain on anyone's parade but it you smoke it, it will affect your lungs. Just like smoking cigarettes. Being "natural" does not make it good for you. Think asbestos, tobacco, probably could come up with a few others as well. Each person has to decide for themselves but the world is more then just you. What scares me more then anything is the second hand smoke, I had lots of that growing up. And getting high and then driving, just like drunk people. Full respect to those that use it for pain relief or other reasons, as long as it is under control.
I know the prescription meds Art is currently on have lots of side effects, have potential to be highly addictive and he sure can't drive Or work either way.
He is not really one to take even over the counter meds so as soon as he's able to be done with those good riddance.
I know we'll be choosing a more natural option for appetite and pain management when he is doing chemo.
whether it's used in food options ect or smoked if he has to. Whatever works will be better then prescribed options.
ya have to fight to get to see a doctor, get surgury , treatment. But they push you out of the hospital asap. the VON nurses that are supposed to be doing different types of home care (hospital sets that up so that they can push you out )
Haven't even showed up yet😖
Our system is broken for sure. You have to find whatever option is best going to get the job done for your cituation. This **** is tough, and seems like a long ****ty road, so I'll look at / choose whatever helps.
I know the prescription meds Art is currently on have lots of side effects, have potential to be highly addictive and he sure can't drive Or work either way.
He is not really one to take even over the counter meds so as soon as he's able to be done with those good riddance.
I know we'll be choosing a more natural option for appetite and pain management when he is doing chemo.
whether it's used in food options ect or smoked if he has to. Whatever works will be better then prescribed options.
ya have to fight to get to see a doctor, get surgury , treatment. But they push you out of the hospital asap. the VON nurses that are supposed to be doing different types of home care (hospital sets that up so that they can push you out )
Haven't even showed up yet😖
Our system is broken for sure. You have to find whatever option is best going to get the job done for your cituation. This **** is tough, and seems like a long ****ty road, so I'll look at / choose whatever helps.
I am sure it is classified as a drug. Air line pilots, train engineers
Ttc drivers , are all routinally checked.
Oh and pro sports .
Let me make myself clear as nobody seemed to have read my post
I am not against marijuana being made available to those who require it medically. But does society really need another for me and my use drug to go along with the social problems we have now with alcohal ?? How many will be spending a couple of hundred bucks on pot rather than their children or families ??How many will be busted driving under the influence if pot ??
Now a Dui will run a person 15000.00 just to get back into the car !!!
I can see the govt rubbing their hands together now.
I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest with you bud but I wonder how many of those folks takes prescribed or over the counter medicines that clearly state " Do not operate machinery......"
The dosage of Lyrica I was taking, while helping to mask ( not cure) my pain left me groggy. It also caused a number of negative and painful side effects. I won't go into all the issues Pharma's create for our liver, kidneys, etc.
Worse side effect I have with pot is trying to stay out of the cookie jar.
I don't drink beer or alcohol cause I am allergic to alcohol..
and the LIBERALS as well. Do your homework 