So now I have a couple of welding questions. In the first picture I have two pieces of 16 ga overlapping each other. Top piece is primed and the lower one is not. What I want to do is butt them together to make one smooth part. I know I have to cut one of them but wonder if there is video or is someone can give me some step by step instructions on how to do this with out making a mess. Should there be a gap to weld or tight together? With every thing else I have had extra steel to try but the side panels and the rear roll pan are to pricy to have extras of. Should I/do I need a backing plate? Currently if you look the roll pan part has small return edges on it. They can stay to keep it more rigid if required. If so how much should I leave from the edge?
In the second picture the plan here is to have the channel flush with the back of the box. So how do I weld this up with out making a mess of things. Both are 16 ga as well. The plan right now on the other side of the channel is to tack it only and cover the joint with seam sealer. But here there is nothing to adhere the caulking to as it will be flush. The finished look is to be one that looks like a continues piece going 90 degrees around the outside of the box.
Please remember this is all new to me so feed me as much info as possible. utube search engine and I are not getting along as I cannot find what I need to do this.
The key to welding sheet metal is to get good penetration.
You can practice on some scrap metal. Go and get some strips from somewhere before you attempt this.
You will have good penetration when there are walnuts bleeding thru the back side.
You can then grind the proud and walnuts off without worry of the metal cracking as the whole thickness has melted together.
For butt welds, get the fit tight with no gaps. It's crucial for the two pieces to be flush before you tack them together. If they are not, grind the proud off your tacks and carefully tap with a hammer on dolly to get them flush before welding.
Be careful, penetration is good, but too much means you've over heated it and will warp the panels from the shrinkage that occurs when it cools off.
For butt welds, you can get the warp out with hammer on dolly on the welds after you've ground off the proud. You may be tempted to strike somewhere other than the weld because there is a hump off to the side but don't do it.
One final thing.............practice!
Do some corner welds, T welds, and butt welds.
Your 16 gauge Channel would be easy to fusion weld, with either braze or solder rod.
Even CAMI uses silver solder, filling lead seam & making bondo-less repairs. - and sandblast or wire wheel the flux off, to insure proper bonding of Epoxy primer http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
Silverado truck box hinge repair: I chose Oxy/Acet brazing on 16g fabricated panel joining thin-rusted-out steel (prone to blowing Mig holes),
because it was easy for my skill level & lots strong enough. A small clean tip & perfectly clean joint...is ideal.
-- Edited by Beaumont67SD on Friday 17th of February 2017 11:16:09 PM
Thanks guys, I will try this out and see what happens. Pugsy, for the stake pockets I was thinking of tacking them on and then caulking them with seam sealer. Hopefully keeping the tacks small enough to be covered.
Thanks guys, I will try this out and see what happens. Pugsy, for the stake pockets I was thinking of tacking them on and then caulking them with seam sealer. Hopefully keeping the tacks small enough to be covered.
Use some kind of plastic tool with a 45° notch to spread a nice line. (You could use the wife's credit card for this.)
Make sure the notch is higher than the biggest tack.
If it was mine and those stake pockets are not structural I would glue them on with the two part glue for body panels. Quarter panels get glued on with this stuff. I glued a roof skin on a 30's ford with no problems. It takes a gun similar to a caulking gun but it mixes right in the nosil of the gun. Just another option
Hey Marten, we've spoke about your box. What you've done so far looks really great. You are going to have such a great time with that truck when you're done, cuz you did yourself. Good on you and keep it up...
Interesting look at stitch welds. Worth a watch,
And like every one else has already stated, practice practice practice...
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If it was mine and those stake pockets are not structural I would glue them on with the two part glue for body panels. Quarter panels get glued on with this stuff. I glued a roof skin on a 30's ford with no problems. It takes a gun similar to a caulking gun but it mixes right in the nosil of the gun. Just another option
TMJ
Some really good advice tmj , if I were doing mine again I wouldn't weld them on . The 2 part glue
is the cats ass !!!! Available in all different drying times as well, and acts as a sealer as well
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