Striving to be different in your build but !!!!

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Striving to be different in your build but !!!!

wuga · Prince Edward County Ont

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Warren

admin · Jul 10, 2016

I feel about the same about glass 32 Fords.. Everybody and his puppy has a to have a glass 32 Ford.. The 350 for me is about the dollars, reliability, drivability, parts cost, performance equipment, and skills... But I don't want to own one of a billion 32 Fords.. I do say to each his own.. I build what I can afford to own and drive.. That's why I don't do poop and parks .. To many Monday morning quarterbacks, Who have no idea of my skills, limits, or dollars. We all have a lot of unknown's or circumstances.. So enjoy what you own. When I come home to-day I had fun with what ever I drive .. It's about the good times with friends.. Them I will have forever. A car is just a car It will never take the place of good times and good friends..

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Oh yeah!! one of the 350 chevs and 700 r4 was installed and running and driving

in my 34 chev , removed it and replaced it with the 390 ford

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Don't get me started on the32 fords LOL Wouldn't own one !!! unless all original , 32 ford original

It really doesn't cost a whole lot more to build any other motor stock till you get into the speed equipment

and even the chev speed equipment isn't much cheaper,just easier to find and can be paid for with Visa !!!

and once built no less dependable than any 350 chev!!!

teejay99 · Belle River On Ford Member

It can be a very touchy topic when talking about some guy's street rod but I've wondered about the " sbc in everything " too . Rodders USED TO BE different . I know things change and evolve but back in the day if you had an old Ford and wanted something different it was a Buick , Olds ,or Caddy for power . Not any more . If you go to carsonline.com and look up the long list of 32 , 33 and 34 Fords for sale you will see about 95% sbc power ......why not paint them all the same colour too ? biggrin biggrin

Like I said it can be touchy to talk about and I keep my moth shut when I'm at a cruise . Guys will fall back to the " it's my car " argument and they do have a valid point .

Just for fun , one time , with a guy I knew fairly well , I asked him about his sbc powered glass 32 Ford . "Why not a Ford motor ?"

It was "all about cost , he said , much cheaper to buy a crate motor sbc "

So , I said ", let's say you are completing the final touches on a 32 Chevy but you don't have a motor yet " You happen to buy a raffle ticket for a done up small block Ford and trans , complete, and you win the raffle ! Would you put it in the 32 Chevy , because you said cost was most important and you just WON the motor and trans . Cost = ZERO biggrin

Whoa , his eyes narrowed and he got the deer-in-the-headlights look and said " No , that just isn't done , a Ford in a Chevy " Huh ?

At the end of the day , it's not my car , and the guy can do whatever he wants ....to be the same biggrin

admin · Jul 10, 2016

All that work to put that 2 ton Ford in there, and then u use that mickey mouse mustangII front end.. biggrin A real rod has a straight axel and SBC . biggrin . no messy wiring of that messy front dizzy.. And What's that, you need two master cyls to get it stopped.. confuse biggrin biggrin

Gwillyville Kid · Bradford West Gwillimbury, On Member

A friend of mine was running a 390 in a '66 Galaxie. Converted it to a 4 speed. 4:11s. For a Barge it got along well. While looking up some stuff for him I found an interesting fact. An FE with aluminum heads and intake weighs LESS than an iron SBC.(What was that Huge Sucking sound, like several hundred people gasping at once?) Aluminum heads are readily available, so are intake manifolds. I did NOT say cheap. Just for fun, 427 block and pistons, 428 crank and rods = 465 inches, with above mentioned heads & Intake there's a party waiting to happen. With the $$$ people are throwing at "Safe Investment" Hot Rods, why Not? This really is a "To Each His Own" pastime.

Have a Great Day!

the Kid.

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

actually a 390 ford is about the same weight as a 350 chev even with the cast heads and intake !!

Beans · Courtice On Rod-Side Member Pin Striper

Joe's always picking on me...

I specifically wanted to find something with a sbc cause I figured it's a good place for me to start. I didn't have a clue what I was doing so didn't wanna potentially make it harder on my self. I also didn't know what was cool and what wasn't yet...

I wasn't around back in the 50-60's but do you think back then anyone woulda said 'oh look, another flathead..' Not a smart ass comment it's actually a real question. Were they so common back then people woulda said the same thing about sbc now??

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

admin wrote:
All that work to put that 2 ton Ford in there, and then u use that mickey mouse mustangII front end.. A real rod has a straight axel and SBC .. no messy wiring of that messy front dizzy.. And What's that, you need two master cyls to get it stopped..

That 2 ton ford is the same weight as a mouse motor !!! don't know what I was thinking with the mustang 2 front end{wont ever happen again}

when your looking in awww of such a great motor you hardly notice the wiring and one master for brakes

and one master for mccloed hydraulic throw out bearing as we all know a real hot rod has 3 peddles biggrin biggrin biggrin

Beans · Courtice On Rod-Side Member Pin Striper

Ps - for anyone offended by my motor I'm open to cooler motor donations. Lol

jarvis1 · Vancouver Island Formerly Hamilton Ont

Mustang ll front suspension should only be used on full fendered cars.
Ford motors have the distributor on the correct end.
Deuce rad shells should only be on '32 Fords. Not on T's, A's or anything else.
Thank you for your time. biggrin

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Beans wrote:
Joe's always picking on me...

I specifically wanted to find something with a sbc cause I figured it's a good place for me to start. I didn't have a clue what I was doing so didn't wanna potentially make it harder on my self. I also didn't know what was cool and what wasn't yet...

I wasn't around back in the 50-60's but do you think back then anyone woulda said 'oh look, another flathead..' Not a smart ass comment it's actually a real question. Were they so common back then people woulda said the same thing about sbc now??

So you went looking at fords ????

Beans · Courtice On Rod-Side Member Pin Striper

Honesty I just went looking with an open mind. Didn't know what I wanted was just looking until I found something that felt right. I just knew I didn't want anything too rare or hard to get parts for. So found a truck with sbc, it's Mercury but same as the ford and you can easily get almost anything you need for my truck in a heartbeat. I didn't wanna spend weekends, months looking for hard to find parts, I don't wanna scrounge through swap meets getting frustrated or not able to drive cause I'm looking for a hard to find part. (id rather be fishing on the weekend) attached a pic of my walleye this weekend btw...

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Beans, all I am saying is if you are building a car and have a blank canvas and worry about

every aspect of the build , quick change, hidden hinges , recessed licence plate, louvers and all that other

cool stuff to make your car stand out , why a SBC???? Sure another motor may cost a few dollars more to build

but you would be surprised how little difference there is if built stock or close too.

Machine work is machine work boring, decking, line boring ,rod reconditiong etc is about the same whether a sbc

or big block ford , not a lot of difference in price for most engines for parts either , of course there are engines

out there that are rare and hard to find anything for , but most aren't and even if it cost 1000.00 dollars more

it's still not what everybody else has !!!

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Beans wrote:

Honesty I just went looking with an open mind. Didn't know what I wanted was just looking until I found something that felt right. I just knew I didn't want anything too rare or hard to get parts for. So found a truck with sbc, it's Mercury but same as the ford and you can easily get almost anything you need for my truck in a heartbeat. I didn't wanna spend weekends, months looking for hard to find parts, I don't wanna scrounge through swap meets getting frustrated or not able to drive cause I'm looking for a hard to find part. (id rather be fishing on the weekend) attached a pic of my walleye this weekend btw...

Nice Walleye Nick

It doesn't matter what I think Nick , It is a very nice truck and I would be proud to own it ,

all I am saying is if you are building your own from scratch , there are more options for engine choice than a small block chev !!!

and it doesn't have to be ford either !!! Stock parts are easy , it's looking for the hi performance stuff that it get's expensive

and hard to find , I can walk into any Canadian tire and get most anything I need to keep my nailhead or fe running

teejay99 · Belle River On Ford Member

Mentioning the flatheads , yeah they were everywhere , but NOT under the hood of anything other than a Ford product . Chevy's ran a straight 6 , and Jimmy truck motors and the like . Again if you wanted an OHV you went Nailhead , Olds or Caddy . A Mopar guy might move up to the early hemi's from a Dodge or Desoto .....lots of power but very heavy .

admin · Jul 10, 2016

Joe> I can walk into any Canadian tire and get most anything I need to keep my nailhead or fe running .. Hell Joe you can't even buy an air cleaner filter for either at Canadian Tire anymore..For a nailhead or an Fe Lucky to get a universal fuel filter from your lawn mower to fit.. biggrin That old SBC in my FORD never even needs a filter the air it uses is so clean biggrin ..Just humms along and always gets me home and lotsa thumbs up..

But really What does it matter ?? The way I see it we are all in this hobby at different ages, financial positions, skill sets, passion, responsibility's, Kids, and as we move through the cycle of our lives, we change. Like Nick He loves to have his old truck (nice old truck) He has a lot of fun, driving that truck. It been reliable, He is constantly try to keep upgrading it to make it a safer better truck.. He is learning to do most things himself, he is not afraid of a challenge. Building his own automatic, no small feat . He is also enjoying his life at his other hobby fishing ..Great fishing by the way that's a beauty..I would say don't sweat the small stuff and don't let some of us grey faced farts take any of your enthusiasm for both and more things in life..Soon enough you will get more time in the shop if that's what you lean into or it may be a cottage and more fishing tournaments. We never know where life will take us. We don't all like the same cars, hockey teams, music, or blondes..I am glad for all the old beaters and 4 dr cars I would like to pretend were all hot rods in one way or another for me .. I could never afford a real hot rod when I was young, Hell most guys I hung around with all had old junkers .. It was just common that there was a ton of old Ford , Chevs, Hudson's, Packard's and a hundred other makes, coupes, 2 drs they were 25 to 150 fifty bucks anywhere. I just like messing with and having an old jalopy to go cruising with , Most Honda civics could probably beat the heck out of me from the light. I don't care anymore, I just want go out for a cruise and enjoy it.. It doesn't make any difference to me if you have a stationary engine in your car if your havin fun .. I am too..You got some sweet cars Joe.. I love them all..

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Yeah Chuck

Love all cars , The car I have the most sellers remorse over

is a 1961 monarch 4 door !!! Man I loved that car ,6 people in it and nobody touching each other LOL

Rode smoother than most cadillacs I have been in , I would buy it back in a minute

Have fun what ever you are building and driving and drive the wheels off it !!!!

The only person you have to make happy is you !!!

Lightspeed Mike · http://lightspeedmetaldesign.com/

Yes Joe there are way to many first gen sbc engines in street rods out there. I almost fell asleep typing that.....
I'm putting a 5.3 Vortec in my 38 Chev, but what else would you put in a chev but a chev. I just like the turn key fuel injection, new technology beats old technology any day. What's in your GMC van Joe?
Still can't convince any one else to a 4 cyl Toyota turbo engine in any thing...
Nice fish Nick. The shave looks way better too.

Whitey · Clarington Ont

nice catch Beans! Cheers

Marten · Kemptville Ont Carpenter/Renovations

Well I guess I get to ruffle a few feathers here. I have a 350 sbc in my truck. But I am a Chevy guy, just happen to like the old Ford pick ups. Oh well. The other thing for me is a lack of talent so I need something that is easy to find and make work. No science lab for me, to expensive. For those that can play and figure out different things with their motors good for you and I have a lot of respect for you.

toomuchjunk · Jul 10, 2016

Marten wrote:
Well I guess I get to ruffle a few feathers here. I have a 350 sbc in my truck. But I am a Chevy guy, just happen to like the old Ford pick ups. Oh well. The other thing for me is a lack of talent so I need something that is easy to find and make work. No science lab for me, to expensive. For those that can play and figure out different things with their motors good for you and I have a lot of respect for you.

Hey Marten don't worry about the feathers. Nothing wrong with what you have there. At 60 MPH it doesn't matter what is in it for an engine. I also have a Ford pickup with a chevy that I put in it 21 years ago. A few years ago I felt bad about doing it but after my latest bout with a ford in a ford that I have I don't feel bad at all.

JMO

TMJ

Marten · Kemptville Ont Carpenter/Renovations

Actually thinking of putting a Dodge set of seats in it just to make everyone mad, lol.

wuga · Prince Edward County Ont

jarvis1 wrote:
Mustang ll front suspension should only be used on full fendered cars.
Ford motors have the distributor on the correct end.
Deuce rad shells should only be on '32 Fords. Not on T's, A's or anything else.
Thank you for your time.

Not necessarily a Ford fan, but distributors should be at the front, also, stop butchering firewalls. Jarvis1, you could' say it any better.

Warren

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Marten wrote:
Actually thinking of putting a Dodge set of seats in it just to make everyone mad, lol.

Dodge , them there are fighting words LOL

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

Lightspeed Mike wrote:
Yes Joe there are way to many first gen sbc engines in street rods out there. I almost fell asleep typing that.....
I'm putting a 5.3 Vortec in my 38 Chev, but what else would you put in a chev but a chev. I just like the turn key fuel injection, new technology beats old technology any day. What's in your GMC van Joe?
Still can't convince any one else to a 4 cyl Toyota turbo engine in any thing...
Nice fish Nick. The shave looks way better too.

4.3 GMC Van is a piece of **** , mechanicaly has been good , body and electrical is crap

seized hinges that are now broke , glued on to boot , change headlights every 3 months ,

rear driver side running light constantly blowing fuses , wiper arms under cowl broke twice now

I see a new ford in my future !!!

58chev · Etobicoke On Rod-side Member

33 guy wrote:
all I am saying is if you are building your own from scratch , there are more options for engine choice than a small block chev !!!

whew, biggrin

good thing I'm not building my 58 from scratch. LOL Came with a SBC and will keep the SBC in it. Even though I did try to be different at one point and wedge a Buick 455 into it, then realized it was over my head to make new motor and trany mounts for the 455.

henrystoys · Carleton Place On Rod-Side Member

I'm putting a carb'd turbo Buick in my HenryJ, only because I got it for free. Also setting it up for a Chevy. As it is a Chrysler orphan it should have a hemi in it.

Ragtop · Belle River On Member

Hard to believe. Having lifted plenty of FE intakes as a kid when the oil drain back holes used to get plugged on those things.

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

henrystoys wrote:
I'm putting a carb'd turbo Buick in my HenryJ, only because I got it for free. Also setting it up for a Chevy. As it is a Chrysler orphan it should have a hemi in it.

Also were sold by Sears ...

henrystoys · Carleton Place On Rod-Side Member

"Allstate" was the name used by Sears, 1953/ 54.

Grumpy50 · Hensall Ont Member

Hell it doesn't matter - "As Long As The Man That Built It Is Happy It's All Good " , Like Chuck said mostly its a matter of economics ,I personally enjoy anything that has been well executed regardless of driveline but it is especially gratifying to see other's ingenuity at work despite the pitfalls . Wrench on folks !!!
Larry (GOBG50)

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