Historic plates

Doze1273 · New Market Rat member

Historic plates

parklane · St.Thomas On Rod-side member

Know of lots of guys that are running historic plates on vehicles that are a long way from being original, with no problems from the authorities. This may change if they decide to go after the owners, but $18 per year, sure is nice.

toomuchjunk · May 18, 2016

but really what is modified though?? A different set of wheels?? Different floor mats?? Different set of tires??

I agree the price is a nice break. Mine has been plated with historic plates for the last two years. Last year it never came out of the shop and the year before I put about 10 miles on it. Plated as regular before that.

TMJ

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

I am sure the ticket, when they do start handing them out will balance out your savings from regular plates, or

when the insurance company walks away after a denying a claim .

I have a totally original 27 model t . I register it with regular plates

oldkoot · Brockville On, Old Autos Star

Joe is right on the money here, the concern should be your insurance coming good for a claim, an improperly plated vehicle is an easy way to deny a claim. Call your insurance agent and ask them, be honest, tell them you have a street rod with historic plates. Another problem you'll have if your ever stopped in a MOE/MTO inspection, you don't want to ask about the fine.

tc · St.Thomas On member

I agree with Joe and Don on this one. I had historic plates on my last one (straight axle Nomad) I put about 1,000 miles on it and often wondered what if something happens. Could have been SOL..........

shag766 · Foxboro On Rod-side Member

i don't know anybody personally but i think i heard rumblings of this happening around the peterboro area. i had them on 3 cars but i took them off due to the restrictions to them. i didn't think about the insurance side of it though, good point. i'm thinking that the money i am saving on the classic insurance is more than enough to spring for full plates and i can almost drive pretty much anywhere-anytime not having to think about it or one less care sort of thing. i can see it getting pushed though for 2 or 3 reasons and the main one is probably money.

lvnfld · Frankford Ont Member

I stayed away from the historical plates because of the restrictions, but have registered y o m , year of manufacture plates for my car. just as much as getting personal plates, but more period correct. and less hassel with insurance and po po

admin · May 19, 2016

I know it sucks with this government and the fees we have to pay for plates.. But putting Historic plates on a street rod is an abuse of the system. They are not historic vehicles.. But having said that, I would not blame anybody for doing it .. Anyway U can save a few bucks especially to thwart this Liberal government They go out their way to stuff it up our butt every day.. So if you can get away with it , I won't hassle you for doing it..

WE B CRUZN · Strathroy On Member

When I went in for my personal plates I asked about the restrictions on Historic plates. The one thing I never knew was that you are not allowed on any 400 HWY with them no matter what's been done to the car. Just thought id throw that little bit of info out there as none of my friends knew it either.

toomuchjunk · May 24, 2016

Thanks for adding that

TMJ

Doze1273 · New Market Rat member

Thanks everyone! Some great info from everybody!

toomuchjunk · May 31, 2016

Today I got the latest edition of STREET RODDER in the mail. There is a nice Model A on the cover. It has a Cadillac in it and is built LOBOY style,has been chopped and channeled with no fenders. This is a nice car with wide whites, Radir Tri-Ribs,Lucky 7 axle and a real eye catching colour. The car is from Barrie and has historic plates right there on the front page. I wasn't aware that historic plates ment NO 400 series highways. HISTORIC ???? .I would say a bit of a stretch on the historic thing.

Just my opinion

TMJ

toomuchjunk · Jun 17, 2016

I saw this little Pinto in Strathroy today at the Turkeyfest show

Pro-street and even has wheelie bars

Tmj

TIME TRAVELLER · Niagara On Region Member

WE B CRUZN wrote:
When I went in for my personal plates I asked about the restrictions on Historic plates. The one thing I never knew was that you are not allowed on any 400 HWY with them no matter what's been done to the car. Just thought id throw that little bit of info out there as none of my friends knew it either.

Here we go again with that silly "can't drive on 400 series highway" stuff. Total nonsense. There is NO legal prohibition against using Historic plates on 400 highways, or any other highways in Ontario. If someone in uniform says so, ask them the section in the Highway Traffic Act or its regulations. Doesn't exist.

red-oak · St.Marys Ont -Rod Side Member

I agree with the time Traveller as I can not find any were on the gov site saying that and it just does not make sense to restrict a provincial plated to certain roads

modfather · Victoria Harbour On

But did anyone know that historic plates are for parade vehicles that are trailered to and from a sanctioned parade
They also permit you to participate in an official car club cruise with a set route and if the car is trailered to and from the event. In the event of an accident you could be charged with miss use of a permit. This would also give your insurance company the opportunity to bail on a claim. I ran a performance hot rod shop in the past and spent the better part of an hour and a half getting the low down from one of the head MTO enforcement officers. He was very helpful in me making my decision to just go buy a regular plate. I asked him if he had ever personally pulled over and charged someone. His comment was no and he would more than likely give me the thumbs up if he was to pass me. But he also commented that it was not him I would have to worry about. I should be more concerned with my insurance company and the miss use of a permit in the event of a claim or damage to personal property. The one other statement he did make was that his rookies are back stabbing toe stepping ladder climbers and who knows what they would do. I had this conversation over 15 years ago and I don't think much has changed since then. Perhaps someone can actually download the permitted use of the historic plate. I suck at navigating the government web sites.

TIME TRAVELLER · Niagara On Region Member

Here's the definition of Historic Vehicle from Ontario Regulation 628 (Vehicle Permits) and the link to the regulation in e/Laws. Just hit "download" and do a search for "historic".

“Historic vehicle” means, despite the definition in subsection 7 (1.1) of the Act, a motor vehicle that,
(a) is at least 30 years old,
(b) is operated on a highway in parades, for purposes of exhibition, tours or similar functions organized by a properly constituted automobile club or for purposes of repair, testing or demonstration for sale,
(c) is substantially unchanged or unmodified from the original manufacturer’s product, and
(d) does not have attached to it year-of-manufacture plates;

www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/900628

admin · Jul 9, 2016

That's a lot of reading biggrin

henrystoys · Carleton Place On Rod-Side Member

When you apply for these plates you fill in an application and after reading the if and buts you sign the form. Get a copy from any Ont center and read it, all the conditions are on it. It is pretty straight forward. Since we are all law abiding citizens there should be no trouble.

bmw2002e3 · St.Marys On Member

admin wrote:
I know it sucks with this government and the fees we have to pay for plates.. But putting Historic plates on a street rod is an abuse of the system. They are not historic vehicles.. But having said that, I would not blame anybody for doing it .. Anyway U can save a few bucks especially to thwart this Liberal government They go out their way to stuff it up our butt every day.. So if you can get away with it , I won't hassle you for doing it..

What if you have a hotrod say a 50s model rodded up in the 50s way, I'd consider that historic.

33 guy · Mississauga On Rod-side Member Ford guy

TIME TRAVELLER wrote:
Here's the definition of Historic Vehicle from Ontario Regulation 628 (Vehicle Permits) and the link to the regulation in e/Laws. Just hit "download" and do a search for "historic".

“Historic vehicle” means, despite the definition in subsection 7 (1.1) of the Act, a motor vehicle that,
(a) is at least 30 years old,
(b) is operated on a highway in parades, for purposes of exhibition, tours or similar functions organized by a properly constituted automobile club or for purposes of repair, testing or demonstration for sale,
(c) is substantially unchanged or unmodified from the original manufacturer’s product, and
(d) does not have attached to it year-of-manufacture plates;

www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/900628

I cant believe you guy's are still going on about this !!!!

If you are questioning whether you should or shouldn't ,The right

answer is that you probably shouldn't!!!

We already save 1500.00 to 2000.00 with collector car Insurance !!!

Are you really that cheap that you think you should risk losing that priveledge

over 90.00 ?????

I have an all original 1926 ford model T which cost me 110.00 a year to insure

I use regular plates ,I drive where and when I like and don't look over my shoulder

to see if the oncoming cop turned around !!!!

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