electric garage heater

henrystoys · Carleton Place On Rod-Side Member

electric garage heater

123pugsy · Tin basher Metal shaping guy

Looks like you'd be running at the lower BTU rating which is still pretty good.

Hate to see your hydro bill though.
A propane furnace would probably be cheaper in the long run if you don't have natural gas.

Supernash · Fullarton On

I have a similar heater I plug into my welder outlet.

Works great, until I got the first Hydro bill. Good for a backup out there now.

I just left it on for a month because it has a thermostat etc, and being in the Boonies my Hydro is basically Rape.

I bought a Mr Heater that runs off a BBQ 20 pound propane tank. I want to drop an outside tank (420 ?) with a shut-off in the shop.

My house is propane, but they can't fill the little tanks from the truck, so thats why I want the outside thing.

The BBQ tanks last about a week'ish, and only run an hour or so a day when it's chilly.

I think when I last priced out a drop from the truck opposed to BBQ tank fill, the BBQ tank was almost 3 times the cost.

I will sell my Electric unit for $50 if you wanna go that route.

shag766 · Foxboro On Rod-side Member

123pugsy wrote:
Looks like you'd be running at the lower BTU rating which is still pretty good.

Hate to see your hydro bill though.
A propane furnace would probably be cheaper in the long run if you don't have natural gas.

i would be on pugs side with his call to consider propane. this model from the depot is pretty reasonable for the btu output and will will run gas or propane.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOOL-80-AFUE-3-Ton-70-000-BTU-Multi-Position-Multi-Speed-Gas-Furnace-PG8MAA036070-MC/303446404

if you are thinking on running 60 amps out to there it don't leave a bunch with an electric heater, welder and a mid sized compressor running. you pay a 1 time fee a year for the bigger tank and can run your bbq or standby genny off it also. a 120 gal tank would likely be enough for the whole year and you can fill it in the summer when the prices are usually cheaper. i think i paid in the low .50's a lt for my last fill up and today there are several companies for a choice of supplier where as not to long ago superior was sticking it up everybodys pooper with their pricing.

Marten · Kemptville Ont Carpenter/Renovations

Don't buy that crap from Home Depot. It is made just for them. Getting service or parts will drive you nuts. Any after sales service is a test of patience.

shag766 · Foxboro On Rod-side Member

Marten wrote:
Don't buy that crap from Home Depot. It is made just for them. Getting service or parts will drive you nuts. Any after sales service is a test of patience.

i wasn't promoting or recommending that particular unit or any brand marten. i know that pretty much everything with a known brand name on it sold at any of the bigger box stores is usually made to their specific specs, i am actually surprised at some of the bigger names that pull their pants down for them. what i was trying to get across is that there are options other than going electric at a reasonable price if you can find them. the propane one i put in my shop 15yrs ago i bought used from a guy who installed them for a big company here, the unit was 3yrs old and a take out to go higher btu's. 250 or 300 bucks?? that was awhile ago.

when i seen the mention of electric heat being considered and running 60 amps total it made me think is all. that and having any sort of reliance on hydro as the piper still has to get paid on that ongoing deficit someday. i am on your side as i wouldn't buy their sh!t new either but maybe a case of beer or 2 used depending on the age and paid when it is running sitting on the floor with no cracks in the exchanger. just guessing fused at 30amps for that much btu's with the electric.

Marten · Kemptville Ont Carpenter/Renovations

shag766 wrote:
Marten wrote:
Don't buy that crap from Home Depot. It is made just for them. Getting service or parts will drive you nuts. Any after sales service is a test of patience.
i wasn't promoting or recommending that particular unit or any brand marten. i know that pretty much everything with a known brand name on it sold at any of the bigger box stores is usually made to their specific specs, i am actually surprised at some of the bigger names that pull their pants down for them. what i was trying to get across is that there are options other than going electric at a reasonable price if you can find them. the propane one i put in my shop 15yrs ago i bought used from a guy who installed them for a big company here, the unit was 3yrs old and a take out to go higher btu's. 250 or 300 bucks?? that was awhile ago.
when i seen the mention of electric heat being considered and running 60 amps total it made me think is all. that and having any sort of reliance on hydro as the piper still has to get paid on that ongoing deficit someday. i am on your side as i wouldn't buy their sh!t new either but maybe a case of beer or 2 used depending on the age and paid when it is running sitting on the floor with no cracks in the exchanger. just guessing fused at 30amps for that much btu's with the electric.

I have to agree with you here shag766. Not sure why good company's make a cheaper product line just for the big box stores. To me it will wreak there name. I know it comes down to money but still there are many brands that refuse to sell to the Home Depot's of life. I have be caught a few times with various products this way. I know of one company that refuses to sell to them but there product is still in the store. What happens is that a third party buys the stuff then resells it to Home Depot. Talked to the manufactures rep about it and he says they get lots of phone calls because of problems with it. It all comes down to the home owner not knowing, the store people not knowing how to install their products, using the wrong adhesives, etc. Go figure, oh the power of the buck.

As for electrical rates, does not matter how you cut it, someone is going to pay eventually and it will be the end user.

wuga · Prince Edward County Ont

My buddy is a gas heating guy. He was called in the other day to install a Mr Heater. Since it is his licence, he had to do it legally. You now have to install the heater with that double walled vent pipe, not just the kit that they used to supply. The heater cost the customer about $600 and the chimney cost $700. Be careful who you ask to install any propane/gas heater in your garage.

Warren

FLEET 51 · Portland On Rod-Side Member

I can agree with WUGA -- My Mr. Heater ( 50000 BTU ) was around $500.00 at Princess Auto -- The vent kit ( Chimney ) was almost as much -- Then I had it professionally connected to a 450 Bottle . Heats 680 sq, Ft , 10 ft ceiling , good insulation and does a great job !! Shortly after using it on a very dirty day , I quickly forgot the up-front costs -- VERY happy with it , plus no lost floor space and the insurance company is happy too --All good !! -- LATER -- DON / FLEET 51

shag766 · Foxboro On Rod-side Member

wuga wrote:
My buddy is a gas heating guy. He was called in the other day to install a Mr Heater. Since it is his licence, he had to do it legally. You now have to install the heater with that double walled vent pipe, not just the kit that they used to supply. The heater cost the customer about $600 and the chimney cost $700. Be careful who you ask to install any propane/gas heater in your garage.

Warren

you are on the money there warren. if it is gas it has to be legit before they will drop a tank and then there is the insurance side if it wasn't. i don't know if gas is somewhat like hydro where you can do your own but it still has to pass an inspection. there is only 1 regulator involved and a short run of pipe if it is placed right. the regulator comes with the tank placement and they might run the short pipe in for a new customer for free or quite reasonable being such an easy job. i was thinking the 30 to 40,000 btu range for plastic chimney if they make them. anything electric to heat that much space will take some power and there is only 60 total.

i was just thinking about the power needed for hydro heat. mine is just a 2" plastic vent but i don't know if they make one smaller for a smaller shop.