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It is not new , It has been in force for a couple years.. I am trying to just add some stuff that has been discussed on other boards by mostly your selves..smile  As in good stuff to know

 

If you are planning to buy a used vehicle in the United States and bring it home to Canada, a new U.S. government rule means a bit more legwork.


If you don't do it, it could cost you a lot more money.


WHAT IS THE AUTOMATED EXPORT SYSTEM? Automated Export System (AES) is a mandatory filing requirements by U.S. Census Bureau of the of Electronic Export Information (EEI).The exporter or the authorized agent must file the vehicle's EEI information using AES.From AES, the importer (or authorized agent) will receive an Internal Transaction Number (ITN) number in a confirmation message.This number must be presented to U.S. Customs to bring the vehicle into Canada.-- source: www.riv.ca


The rule requires electronic export information (EEI) to be filed for any used "self-propelled vehicles" -- any automobile, truck, tractor, bus, motorcycle, motor home, agricultural machinery, construction equipment or any other kind of special-use machinery designed for running on land -- through the U.S. government's automated export system (AES).


"Starting April 5, the exporter in the U.S. is required to file automated export system information. They have to report to the U.S. Census to tell them who they are, what they're sending, who it's going to, in a nutshell," said Trevor Franzmann, sales and marketing manager at A.D. Rutherford International, a Winnipeg customs broker who works with customers on both sides of U.S.-Canada.


"This is absolutely making it more difficult to buy a vehicle in the U.S. and bring it across the border."
'This is absolutely making it more difficult to buy a vehicle in the U.S. and bring it across the border'


Statistics Canada's international accounts and trade division figures for 2013 showed there were 1,332 self-propelled vehicles imported to Manitoba alone from the U.S., for a total value of about $44 million. Across Canada in 2013, there were 18,441 vehicles brought in from the U.S., for a total value of more than $555 million


Since April 5, self-propelled vehicles exported from the U.S. to Canada are no longer exempt from AES filing. The filing must take place 72 hours prior to crossing the border.
A fine up to $10,000, under the U.S. Census Bureau foreign trade regulations, can be levied for failing to submit the AES information.


"It's excessive, to say the least. The bottom line is it (the vehicle purchased) is not going to be allowed in the country (Canada) if you don't file your AES filing," Franzmann said.
An "informed compliance" period is in place until Oct. 2, giving people time to figure out the new requirements. Franzmann said Canadian buyers of vehicles from the U.S. should start complying right now or risk having the vehicle held up at the border.


"People should also be aware that, even though there is informed compliance right now, U.S. Customs has the right to deny you entry if you don't file the AES," he said.


Once the AES filing has been completed, an internal transaction number (ITN) will be assigned. The importer or a customs broker needs to present that number to U.S. Customs and Border Protection to bring the vehicle across the border.
"Simply, it ends up being the Canadians' responsibility to make sure AES filing is done, because that vehicle is not going to get into the country (Canada) unless you are provided with an ITN, an internal transaction number," Franzmann said.


A potential problem is that to complete the AES filing, the U.S. seller is required to have a federal tax identification number called an EIN. Private individuals in the U.S. might not have an EIN number but, under the new rule, the American seller will have to get one to comply with the AES filing.


That means taking the time to apply to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, and some private sellers don't want to do that.
"What we're telling our customers is find out if the seller has or will get an EIN number. If the seller won't, don't buy or get your money back," Franzmann said.


Another possible point of confusion is which person is ultimately responsible for the AES filing.
Dale Kelly, chief of the U.S. foreign trade division, said that can vary with the location of the Canadian purchasing the vehicle.
"If the person from Canada (the importer) is actually in the U.S. at the time the goods are purchased or obtained for export, then that person/company/individual is considered the U.S. principle party in interest and responsible for the filing of the AES," Kelly said in a telephone interview from Washington, D.C.
"Only if the merchandise was sold by a U.S. person or company and the Canadian person never came to the U.S., then that U.S. company would be considered the U.S. principal party in interest."
Canadians importing a vehicle must be prepared to meet all requirements at the U.S. border in addition to paying fees and taxes.
Canadian Border Services Agency spokeswoman Esme Bailey said Canadians should contact the CBSA before they plan to import a vehicle by calling 1-800-461-9999 and visiting the website

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca.
ashley.prest@freepress.mb.ca



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Well, this just adds more B.S. to the already too much B.S. to get a vehicle into Canada.

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Along the same lines you can file it where you want. AJ posted this over on CR and there is a lot of misinformation out there on registering a car with just a bill of sale in ontario so here is what he did.....

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Default Registering a Car in Ontario Purchased with a Bill of Sale
There have been a couple of threads in the past, but I figured I'd update based on my own recent experiences.

I purchased a 1929 Ford Model A last spring, but the purchase was done with a Bill of Sale only. The previous owner didn't have the title, and in this case, it had never been registered in Canada after being imported.

After doing a ton of reading, and getting confusing/wrong/differing advise from different MTO staff, I finally sorted out the process. At the end of the day, it's really rather simple.

First off, I confirmed with the MTO that the VIN was clean and clear, before I purchased the car. In this case, the MTO was not able to find the VIN at all in their database.

Second, after purchasing, I had an appraisal done on the car. Not a full appraisal, but rather just an MTO appraisal. It cost me $45 dollars for him to come to me to see the car. He stated the value based on my Bill of Sale.

Third, I had to write up an Affidavit with details about the car. I based mine on a template I found on another website, and have included my revised template below. Sections in brackets can be changed for your own needs, or provide advise...


(DATE)

This is an Affidavit for Vehicle Registration.

On (PURCHASE DATE), I purchased a (YEAR, MAKE, and MODEL). Information about the vehicle is outlined below:

Year - (YEAR)

Make - (MAKE)

Model - (MODEL)

VIN - (VIN)

Colour - (COLOUR or PRIMER COLOUR)

Odometer Reading - (ODOMETER READING)

The vehicle was purchased from (SELLER'S NAME) of (CITY and PROVINCE) without ownership for the sum of (PURCHASE PRICE) CAD, making me the legal and rightful owner. (<- THIS SENTENCE IS NECESSARY)

It is unknown to me where and when the vehicle was last registered. (<- CHANGE AS NEEDED) Supporting documents for previous vehicle ownership are unavailable as (SELLER'S NAME) stated, on (PURCHASE DATE) that he had purchased the vehicle without ownership from another party. He could not recall the name of the previous seller. (<- CHANGE AS NEEDED) Through this process of buying and selling, the vehicle had never been registered by any of the owners.

(SELLER'S NAME) had never gone through the process of transferring the ownership into his name as the vehicle was not road worthy and (SELLER'S NAME) had no intentions of ever making it road worthy. (<- CHANGE AS NEEDED)

Signed,

(SIGNATURE)

(NAME)
(STREET ADDRESS)
(CITY and PROVINCE)
(POSTAL CODE)
(ISSUING PROVINCE) Driver's License Number - (Driver's License Number)


Once you have this affidavit drawn up, you will need to have it stamped and signed by a Commissioner of Oaths. **This is different than having it notarized!** I have a legal friend who is a Commissioner who was able to stamp it for me, though I'm sure you would be able to easily contact a law office and find someone with is a Commissioner to do it. I have heard that MTO clerks are Commissioners as well, but cannot confirm that.

With the appraisal in one hand, and the stamped affidavit in the other, I went into the MTO, paid the taxes due and registered the vehicle in my name. At the time, the MTO clerk asked me what colour and engine size the car would eventually be (green, and V8), and listed that instead of what the car currently is (primer orange and engineless). The Vehicle Permit (green slip) reflects the VIN on the frame of the car, and lists it as a 1929 Ford Model A. The only 'difference' is that it is listed as a CV (convertible) as there is no designation in the system for a Phaeton or Roadster.

Easy peasy!
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http://simplifiedtradesolutions.com/get-an-aes-itn/vehicles-to-canada/

Vehicles to Canada

Here’s the process for filing your vehicle in the Automated Export System (AES). The requirement covers any vehicle that is self-propelled, to include cars, snowmobiles, tractors and motorhomes.

  • Complete our two-page application online. It starts below.
  • Check your email for the filing confirmation number (ITN), usually processed at the close of business, around 6 pm Central Time.
  • Pay our invoice. We charge US$ 35. The bill will be sent by email after you receive the ITN. All major credit cards are accepted via Square or PayPal.
  • Send your 14-digit ITN to U.S. Customs and Border Protection 72 hours before your vehicle reaches the border. Contact the local CBP port for its specific requirements. We have contact information and procedures for the most common ports on our website.

This will get your vehicle over to Canada.

Now let’s get started. First, legal stuff. You must allow us to file in AES on your behalf as your authorized agent.

 

Get an AES ITN for your vehicle export to Canada.

  • Terms of use

    I certify that all statements made and all information provided herein are true and correct. I understand that civil and criminal penalties, including forfeiture and sale, may be imposed for making false or fraudulent statements herein, failing to provide the requested information or for violation of U.S. laws on exportation (13 U.S.C. Sec. 305; 22 U.S.C. Sec. 401; 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1001; 50 U.S.C. App. 2410). 
     
    The information collected here pursuant to Title 15, CFR 30 is confidential, to be used by Simplified Trade Solutions LLC solely to provide you with services and by the federal government for the purposes stated in Section 30.60(a) – (c). The purpose of collecting the Electronic Export Information (EEI) is to compile the U.S. Merchandise trade statistics and to provide information needed for related statistical programs of other agencies. The EEI is also used by other Federal agencies to enforce U.S. export laws and regulations, to evaluate the impact of trade agreements and to monitor compliance with such agreements.


  • Written authorization to prepare or transmit electronic export information

    I, the U.S. Principal Party in Interest, hereby authorize Simplified Trade Solutions LLC to act as authorized agent for export control, U.S. Customs, and Census Bureau purposes to transmit such export information electronically that may be required by law or regulation in connection with the exportation or transportation of any goods on behalf of said U.S. Principal Party in Interest. The U.S. Principal Party in Interest certifies that necessary and proper documentation to accurately transmit the information electronically is and will be provided to the said Authorized Agent. The U.S. Principal Party in Interest further understands that civil and criminal penalties may be imposed for making false or fraudulent statements or for the violation of any U.S. laws or regulations on exportation and agrees to be bound by all statements of said authorized agent based upon information or documentation provided by the U.S. Principal Party in Interest to said authorized agent.


  • Your name*
  • Title and company name (if on behalf of a business)
  • Email*
    Note: This is where your AES ITN will be sent when processed.
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  • Phone*


  • Do you agree to the website's terms of use and to authorize Simplified Trade Solutions LLC to prepare or transmit electronic export information on your behalf?*
    •  I agree.
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Will be trying this out in the next couple weeks and will post the results of bringing my donor car back.

Pete

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Well good news.

Everything worked as planned getting the donor home to Canada. The Company Simplified trade solutions did as they say they do. Had the ITN number within a few hours. Paid the $35 US and then faxed the title and ITN number to US customs at the Soo crossing. Stopped with the car and had it cleared and off to Canada.

Don't hesitate to use this Company they do what they say they will do.

Phase 1 complete- Donor car home

Phase 2 get recipient car home next.

Stay tuned

 

Thanks

Pete

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"Paid the $35 US and then faxed the title and ITN number to US customs at the Soo crossing." Was the $35 Simplified Trade Solutions fee?

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admin wrote:

http://simplifiedtradesolutions.com/get-an-aes-itn/vehicles-to-canada/

Vehicles to Canada

Here’s the process for filing your vehicle in the Automated Export System (AES). The requirement covers any vehicle that is self-propelled, to include cars, snowmobiles, tractors and motorhomes.

  • Complete our two-page application online. It starts below.
  • Check your email for the filing confirmation number (ITN), usually processed at the close of business, around 6 pm Central Time.
  • Pay our invoice. We charge US$ 35. The bill will be sent by email after you receive the ITN. All major credit cards are accepted via Square or PayPal.
  • Send your 14-digit ITN to U.S. Customs and Border Protection 72 hours before your vehicle reaches the border. Contact the local CBP port for its specific requirements. We have contact information and procedures for the most common ports on our website.

This will get your vehicle over to Canada.

 

 

Copyright 2015 | Simplified Trade Solutions LLC

 



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Yes it was the fee for Simple trade solutions. The whole process was an easy process and that Company was great to work with.

Cheers

Peter

 



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